png formats vista

Try this, see if this works.
On Windows XP (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
On Windows Vista (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
Now compare the file sizes... which is bigger and which is smaller? I did this on my two machines, and it seems that the PNG compression isn't quite what it should be, because I've got two files exactly the same (both on Classic themed view) and there was a huge difference, about 100kb between the two. Can anyone else repro this?
Thanks :o)
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Is the desktop resolution the same on both machines? -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

Try this, see if this works.
On Windows XP (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
On Windows Vista (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
Now compare the file sizes... which is bigger and which is smaller? I did this on my two machines, and it seems that the PNG compression isn't quite what it should be, because I've got two files exactly the same (both on Classic themed view) and there was a huge difference, about 100kb between the two. Can anyone else repro this?
Thanks :o)
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Heh Andre, that wouldn't matter since winver.exe is a fixed size, the image will be at the same height/width no matter what resolution you're running.

Yeh it is, totally the same - and both on Classic so that everything is the same - I don't get it, the Vista PNG's are loads bigger!
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--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Is the desktop resolution the same on both machines? -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Try this, see if this works.
On Windows XP (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
On Windows Vista (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
Now compare the file sizes... which is bigger and which is smaller? I did this on my two machines, and it seems that the PNG compression isn't quite what it should be, because I've got two files exactly the same (both on Classic themed view) and there was a huge difference, about 100kb between the two. Can anyone else repro this?
Thanks :o)
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800 x 600 its bigger, 1024 x 768, its smaller, it does indeed make a difference. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Perry" wrote in message

Heh Andre, that wouldn't matter since winver.exe is a fixed size, the image will be at the same height/width no matter what resolution you're running.

Correction, yes, you are correct, just compared on two XP machines. 1024 x 768 1400 x 1050
Both are the same size. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Perry" wrote in message

Heh Andre, that wouldn't matter since winver.exe is a fixed size, the image will be at the same height/width no matter what resolution you're running.

I'm thinking that the size of a PNG is determined not only by the resolution but the amount of colors on the screen. I converted all of my bitmaps over to PNG, and they're all different file sizes. All of them are 1024x768, but some are only 500kb while some others are a 1MB. Each bitmap was converted the same way. It seemed that the ones with more colors or more shades of colors were larger than the ones without as many colors. "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

Yeh it is, totally the same - and both on Classic so that everything is the same - I don't get it, the Vista PNG's are loads bigger!
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--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Is the desktop resolution the same on both machines? -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Try this, see if this works.
On Windows XP (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
On Windows Vista (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
Now compare the file sizes... which is bigger and which is smaller? I did this on my two machines, and it seems that the PNG compression isn't quite what it should be, because I've got two files exactly the same (both on Classic themed view) and there was a huge difference, about 100kb between the two. Can anyone else repro this?
Thanks :o)
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The thing is though, both of my screens are exactly the same pretty much. Both 1024x768, both Classic themed (for this exercise anyway), both 32 bit colour, all the same...
In general, Vista PNG's are much larger than XP PNG's.
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--- Original message follows --- "Travis King" wrote in message

I'm thinking that the size of a PNG is determined not only by the resolution but the amount of colors on the screen. I converted all of my bitmaps over to PNG, and they're all different file sizes. All of them are 1024x768, but some are only 500kb while some others are a 1MB. Each bitmap was converted the same way. It seemed that the ones with more colors or more shades of colors were larger than the ones without as many colors. "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Yeh it is, totally the same - and both on Classic so that everything is the same - I don't get it, the Vista PNG's are loads bigger!
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--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Is the desktop resolution the same on both machines? -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Try this, see if this works.
On Windows XP (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
On Windows Vista (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
Now compare the file sizes... which is bigger and which is smaller? I did this on my two machines, and it seems that the PNG compression isn't quite what it should be, because I've got two files exactly the same (both on Classic themed view) and there was a huge difference, about 100kb between the two. Can anyone else repro this?
Thanks :o)
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Mine was 28kb when I took the screenshot of mine in Windows XP. The screenshot is here: http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/290/winver0ze.png "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

The thing is though, both of my screens are exactly the same pretty much. Both 1024x768, both Classic themed (for this exercise anyway), both 32 bit colour, all the same...
In general, Vista PNG's are much larger than XP PNG's.
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--- Original message follows --- "Travis King" wrote in message I'm thinking that the size of a PNG is determined not only by the resolution but the amount of colors on the screen. I converted all of my bitmaps over to PNG, and they're all different file sizes. All of them are 1024x768, but some are only 500kb while some others are a 1MB. Each bitmap was converted the same way. It seemed that the ones with more colors or more shades of colors were larger than the ones without as many colors. "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Yeh it is, totally the same - and both on Classic so that everything is the same - I don't get it, the Vista PNG's are loads bigger!
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--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Is the desktop resolution the same on both machines? -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Try this, see if this works.
On Windows XP (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
On Windows Vista (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
Now compare the file sizes... which is bigger and which is smaller? I did this on my two machines, and it seems that the PNG compression isn't quite what it should be, because I've got two files exactly the same (both on Classic themed view) and there was a huge difference, about 100kb between the two. Can anyone else repro this?
Thanks :o)
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And I do realize that it's not in classic mode. "Travis King" wrote in message

Mine was 28kb when I took the screenshot of mine in Windows XP. The screenshot is here: http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/290/winver0ze.png "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message The thing is though, both of my screens are exactly the same pretty much. Both 1024x768, both Classic themed (for this exercise anyway), both 32 bit colour, all the same...
In general, Vista PNG's are much larger than XP PNG's.
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--- Original message follows --- "Travis King" wrote in message I'm thinking that the size of a PNG is determined not only by the resolution but the amount of colors on the screen. I converted all of my bitmaps over to PNG, and they're all different file sizes. All of them are 1024x768, but some are only 500kb while some others are a 1MB. Each bitmap was converted the same way. It seemed that the ones with more colors or more shades of colors were larger than the ones without as many colors. "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Yeh it is, totally the same - and both on Classic so that everything is the same - I don't get it, the Vista PNG's are loads bigger!
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--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Is the desktop resolution the same on both machines? -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Try this, see if this works.
On Windows XP (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
On Windows Vista (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
Now compare the file sizes... which is bigger and which is smaller? I did this on my two machines, and it seems that the PNG compression isn't quite what it should be, because I've got two files exactly the same (both on Classic themed view) and there was a huge difference, about 100kb between the two. Can anyone else repro this?
Thanks :o)
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But nicely skinned for Vista though ;o)
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--- Original message follows --- "Travis King" wrote in message

And I do realize that it's not in classic mode. "Travis King" wrote in message Mine was 28kb when I took the screenshot of mine in Windows XP. The screenshot is here: http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/290/winver0ze.png "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message The thing is though, both of my screens are exactly the same pretty much. Both 1024x768, both Classic themed (for this exercise anyway), both 32 bit colour, all the same...
In general, Vista PNG's are much larger than XP PNG's.
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--- Original message follows --- "Travis King" wrote in message I'm thinking that the size of a PNG is determined not only by the resolution but the amount of colors on the screen. I converted all of my bitmaps over to PNG, and they're all different file sizes. All of them are 1024x768, but some are only 500kb while some others are a 1MB. Each bitmap was converted the same way. It seemed that the ones with more colors or more shades of colors were larger than the ones without as many colors. "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Yeh it is, totally the same - and both on Classic so that everything is the same - I don't get it, the Vista PNG's are loads bigger!
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--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Is the desktop resolution the same on both machines? -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Try this, see if this works.
On Windows XP (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
On Windows Vista (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
Now compare the file sizes... which is bigger and which is smaller? I did this on my two machines, and it seems that the PNG compression isn't quite what it should be, because I've got two files exactly the same (both on Classic themed view) and there was a huge difference, about 100kb between the two. Can anyone else repro this?
Thanks :o)
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Yeah, I ran across the skin last night. My mouth watered and I had to get it. I don't remember where, but it required Windowblinds. It does have Aero Glass too, but I'm guessing you either have to buy Windowblinds or you have to still have a DX9 card to run it because the transparency was not there and it looks like just Aero. There were the choices of Aero Glass and Aero Express - I chose glass, and I only got Express. I'm leaning towards it needing a DX9 card because I was running a different skin that did have transparency. I also downloaded something that works like Flip3D when you press Alt+Tab. It's only a 30-day trial unless you buy, which I won't. It's pretty good, but it does eat a lot of RAM and it uses your CPU instead of your video card. I keep the program shut off most of the time. I've also had several sidebar programs installed in the past, although I don't have one right now. Most of them are generally good, but a little on the buggy side. The taskbar in this skin looks exactly like Vista, with the oversized start orb and the black and transparent taskbar. The start menu also looks like Aero Glass - transparent with the icons missing from all the options in the right column of the start menu, and the user's icon sticking out of the start menu. The search feature is also there in the menu, but it doesn't work. (Since it's just a skin.) This will have to do until I can get my hands on the real thing. Along with this are three screenshots of my computer and a picture or two of my computer itself - just for those of you that want to see one of the wide variety of computers in the diverse computer world. http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5328/vistalookalike9st.jpg http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1364/vistalookalike20cw.jpg http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3788/vistalookalike38sg.jpg http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7831/img05115rt.jpg http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5096/p10100039cx.jpg "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

But nicely skinned for Vista though ;o)
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--- Original message follows --- "Travis King" wrote in message And I do realize that it's not in classic mode. "Travis King" wrote in message Mine was 28kb when I took the screenshot of mine in Windows XP. The screenshot is here: http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/290/winver0ze.png "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message The thing is though, both of my screens are exactly the same pretty much. Both 1024x768, both Classic themed (for this exercise anyway), both 32 bit colour, all the same...
In general, Vista PNG's are much larger than XP PNG's.
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--- Original message follows --- "Travis King" wrote in message I'm thinking that the size of a PNG is determined not only by the resolution but the amount of colors on the screen. I converted all of my bitmaps over to PNG, and they're all different file sizes. All of them are 1024x768, but some are only 500kb while some others are a 1MB. Each bitmap was converted the same way. It seemed that the ones with more colors or more shades of colors were larger than the ones without as many colors. "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Yeh it is, totally the same - and both on Classic so that everything is the same - I don't get it, the Vista PNG's are loads bigger!
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--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Is the desktop resolution the same on both machines? -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Try this, see if this works.
On Windows XP (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
On Windows Vista (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of *just* the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
Now compare the file sizes... which is bigger and which is smaller? I did this on my two machines, and it seems that the PNG compression isn't quite what it should be, because I've got two files exactly the same (both on Classic themed view) and there was a huge difference, about 100kb between the two. Can anyone else repro this?
Thanks :o)
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The resulting dialog dimensions from WinVer on my lab XP and lab Vista were different (both using Classic theme), and if the below was followed, it would be two different sized images compared, which would not have proven a compression test. I took a sample BMP from a third computer, and used MSPaint on both the XP and Vista lab boxes to convert to PNG. The resulting image's sizes were identical. --

Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor) wrote:

Try this, see if this works.
On Windows XP (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of just the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
On Windows Vista (with Classic theme): 1) Type in at Run, "winver" then press OK. 2) Press Alt+Printscreen when About Windows is active. 3) Open in Paint, and set the canvas size as 2x2. 4) Paste in the screenshot of just the Winver box. 5) Save as a PNG format on your desktop.
Now compare the file sizes... which is bigger and which is smaller? I did this on my two machines, and it seems that the PNG compression isn't quite what it should be, because I've got two files exactly the same (both on Classic themed view) and there was a huge difference, about 100kb between the two. Can anyone else repro this?
Thanks :o)